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 What was I?
A junior?

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 Yes.

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 And Shirley was a freshman.

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And back in 1963 in
Tallahassee, everything

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was totally segregated.

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FAMU was basically
this black bastion

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in the middle of this segregated
city called Tallahassee.

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And Shirley, she's a freshman.

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And she's not there a week--

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- Two weeks.
- Huh?

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 Two weeks.

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 Two weeks.

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And decided that she's going
to march, because Florida A&M,

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the entire campus was
basically getting arrested.

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And the whole idea
was to fill the jails.

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And that's how we met.

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So when she got out
of jail, I saw her.

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I saw this cute
little young lady.

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And I remember it right now.

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And I really thought
about how much courage

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she had to be able to go.

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Because Tallahassee
in 1963 was--

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well St. Augustine, Tallahassee,
was Montgomery and Selma.

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That's what the
equivalent in Florida.

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People don't know
how difficult it was.

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And Shirley's from
St. Augustine.

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They poured acid in
the pool so black

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people couldn't-- couldn't
go in their swimming pool.

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That kind of thing.

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So that kind of courage, you
know, was pretty extraordinary.

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 Interesting enough,
he usually says,

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I met her when you
got out of jail.